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. >> today's news certainly is not an excuse to try to talk down the economy to score a few political points. it's a reminder that this country has come too far to turn back now. >> so john harwood, before we talk about this back and forth, i want to talk about the psychological impact of the rate falling below 8% today. >> it's positive for obama and say that the rate is where it was when i took office. i don't think we should be under any illusions. 7.8% is a high unemployment rate, weak economy. it is a talking point for the administration, and it will get a lot of media attention. it doesn't change the underlying economic reality facing americans, which is not good. >> the labor department lsd employers added 114,000 jobs in september. the goal would have been around 150,000, 155,000, right john? >> exactly. there were upward revisions from the month of august, which is positive for the administration. generally speaking as one labor economist told my colleague"th,n economy with three speeds, slow, idle and reverse. we're in slow mode right now, and this report reflects it. >> let's brin
the president is leading look at this number, economic optimism. 57% now believe the economy is recovering. that number is up six points in just the past few weekz. ultimately this race will be won in nine battleground states. florida, virginia, and ohio romney is tight in the races with the states of fluidity, florida and virginia. in florida obama and romney are neck and neck. virginia romney has narrowed the lead from 5 to 2. another statistical tie. in ohio the president has improved his standing. he leads romney there by eight points. and for those wondering about the party idea the sample is less democratic in ohio this time than the last poll. digging deeper into our numbers we divided thet battleground states by three measures. president's job rating. romney's favorability rating that number is still under water he has problems and the question of which candidate is better equipped to manage the economy. remember the unemployment rate is 5.9% in virginia. romney's favorable in florida but under in virginia and ohio. when it comes to who is better able to manage the economy a questi
to average americans, the economy. let's run this through the spin cycle. i think this is a double-edge sword. on the one hand, this election is about the economy. and regardless of how tempting foreign policy is right now, come election day, voters care most about the economy. that's true i think every year. we know this from 2004. which was supposed to be an election on foreign policy and still exit polls showed most voters cared about the economy. so i think the advisors who want him to stay on message about the economy are right. however, the other side to this, and i guess i'm arguing two points here, the other side to this is, there are areas to exploit. obama's foreign policy has been whitewashed by his defenders and i think there are people on the right in the middle and honest people on the left who would be outraged to hear a little bit more about obama's failed promises. the problem mitt romney is going to have, he has to come at foreign policy from the left and right. that's tricky. from the right, he needs to talk about obama's policy of open hands versus clenched fists, have see
on the campaign, but the public sort of is already absorbed the economy through their own prism. >> we are keeping our eye on two different things. we will get reaction from the president who will speak live at george mason university, and then mitt romney will kick off a campaign event within the hour as well in the southwestern virginia town of of aiavington. 86,000 more jobs added in july and august than previously thought. total unemployment rose by 873,000 jobs last month. that is the biggest one-month increase in nearly 30 years. will these new numbers mean lights out for romney's post debate afterglow? new ads kat aare catered to cri inting states. joining me live is jan schakowsky. congresswoman, it's great to have you here. business pioneer jack welch basically calls these numbers into question. had this remark that he tweeted out earlier today saying, unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything, can't debate, so change numbers. what do you say to that? even the white house though right now this morning reluctant to spike the football on this. in their statement saying
this insane claim making about how one candidate or another is going to transform this economy. we heard romney the other night. he's got no transformational ideas except trickle down economics which we've seen doesn't work. we're not going to have miracles here. we need steady leadership, and whoever can provide that and be honest with the american people about steady leadership in terms of recovery and how he is going to do it as president ought to be the president. but enough of this rhetoric. >> to your point that the truth is important after these jobs numbers came out, jack welch tweeted, unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything. can't debate so change the numbers. they are saying, rana, that these numbers were manipulated. >> that's nonsense. come on. >> if they were manipulated he would have boosted the manufacturing numbers. they were still down. these were mostly gains in health and education. i'm hopeful actually that the ticking down of the unemployment figure will make it a little easier to come to the kind of grand bargain we're going to need to come t
of the economies, and i think because of that mitt romney's gin more chances than he otherwise would to make his case to the american people. i think this very first debate next week may be his last best chance to make his case. >> do you think if the debate's a flop for mitt romney that all of a sudden some super-pacs and big dollar donors, some of the establishment, do they begin to abandon him next thursday? >> i think it will certainly heighten and go to defcon five. what's the next color is on the homeland security chart, i lose track of them, we'll probably go to. i think what mitt needs to do, craig -- >> fuchsia. >> -- is really be himself. stop trying to be a conservative. he's not. we're not talking about a guy with deep ideological convictions. his real moral convictions are in his family where he has a picturesque american model there. beyond that, he's known for making money for himself and other people and creating jobs for those who don't have wealth. that's who he needs to be. >> it sounds like steve is saying let mitt be mitt. is it too late for that? >> well, it's not as though
about the economy. they went after joe biden for his gaffe on saying the middle class has done poorly under the president, but i think, again, they're trying to do things in this tactical way that just hasn't worked for them so far and i think every day they're not having mitt romney out forcefully explaining what the president has done on the economy, is not a great day for them. now, he's in a better place than a lot of the pundits have suggested but i don't really think they have days to waste on things like this and the backlash against it was so strong. when drudge tees something up, even though he tilts right and even though a lot of people denigrate him, it gives the republicans an opportunity to dominate a news cycle. when they cry wolf with a 5-year-old video, it undermineds something so effective as a delivery mechanism over the years. >> i want to open this up to our panel here. karen, the debate, structure of the debate tonight, three segments on the economy, one segment on health care, one segment on the role of economy. no question on vintage youtube clips which is a tot
's focus is domestic. >> yep. >> no bigger domestic issue than the economy, as we know. we'll have a rather open format. do you think we'll actually hear a specific from mr. romney on how he plans for a revenue-neutral 20% tax cut across the board for every american? are we going to hear that tonight in. >> no, absolutely not. i think what you're going to hear and see is more of a tactic. sort of a communications tactic of making it sound like he's talking like a plan, like that 17,000 cap he threw out the other day and then his team walked that right back. probably -- >> karen, that's known as i've got a hole in my pocket, dear liza. >> that's right. you'll hear him talk about a number of these things as if it sounds like a plan, but without any specifics. i think what you'll see from the president is more specifics. again, the president actually has a record to talk about. i mean, put forward a health care plan. happened to be, you know, based on mitt's, but whatever. he has a jobs plan, a number of things of specifics he can point to whereas romney doesn't. i think that will be part of t
mitt romney has hammered president obama about job growth. elect me, i can turn the economy around. but today the rationale for his entire campaign is crumbling. the new job numbers are out and unemployment has dropped to 7.8%. under 8% for the first time since president obama first came into office. that's progress on jobs and that's good for america. but it's absolutely demolishes a favorite romney talking point. >> three years later, unemployment is still above 8%. >> we've gone 41 months with unemployment above 8%. >> we've had 42 straight months with unemployment above 8%. >> still 8% with over 43 straight months. >> today, that talking point disintegrated and president obama has a strong record to campaign on. >> this morning we found out that the unemployment rate has fallen to the lowest level since i took office. but today's news certainly is not an excuse to try to talk down the economy to score a few political points. it's a reminder that this country has come too far to turn back now. >> now, governor romney issued a statement today saying, quote, this is not what a rea
if the governor wants to, he can use this format, which is open ended on the economy, talk about the economy, but also about american strength and how that can or will be affected in the future economically. so i wouldn't be surprised at all if what you saw in that op-ed that governor romney wrote for the "wall street journal" doesn't become part of a response to a larnler conversation about not just economics in america, but the economic projection, the values projection and foreign policy pro jex. >> let me ask you about the deb krzyzewskied. it's going to be six segments. the moderator has some ability to let it go and bring the conversation more broadly. breathe more than we've seen in the past. does that favor one person or the other? >> no, i don't think so. i think as you know, who goes first was determined by coin flip and there's a slight advantage of having your opponent go first. in the opening, romney won the coin toss because president obama goes first and that means that mitt romney can make adjustments after he's spoken, even after that some. i think in the larger scheme of th
the president created a big problem for himself. i don't think he explained himself very well on the economy. i thought he was off his game. i was stunned tonight. rash elyou just mentioned about time, the president needs to get in and fight for that time. there's people that expect him to fight for that time. >> i thought the one thing that mitt romney did tonight that he has not done for the duration of the campaign and was very effective was just lop off the right wing of his party. he didn't care about them tonight. if something was popular, more money for community schools, he was for that. it didn't matter if it would make the right wing, how. whenever the president named a popular policy, more spending on education, more money on medicare, he was for it and he would attack the president for things that were unpopular. so the question becomes can you effectively tie mitt romney to the republican party and its core commitments, both how it acts in the house and the things he has said during the republican debates. and that never really happened tonight. but those of course are the facts of
obama. obama does not want to talk about the current economy and his current performance, because he knows under that debate he loses. >> if it's all about -- if it's all about record, can mitt romney run on his record and appeal to those that are the ground base of his own party to come out? >> absolutely. the ground base -- the most important thing not only for his side, but if you look at hispanics and women and a variety of voters, the most important topic they're interested in is the economy. it's the economy. i hate to quote james carville, but it's the economy, stupid, once again. part of why people are focusing on anything but the economy is because economic news is not good. they have not passed a -- any budget much less a balanced budget in years. it is unbelievable. >> quick, because i want to get some sound, but go ahead. >> real quick, this notion that somehow the president and democrats aren't out there talking about the economy is laughable. the problem with the romney campaign is not that they don't talk about the economy. they don't talk about their policies. it's th
't really amount to much. yesterday they had a sort of a veterans message and an economy message during events in virginia but they can't wait for just the debates. i think conservatives want to see not just big events in terms of big ideas but big events that grab the nation's attention. the romney campaign is frustrated because they say all the press asks them about is process but that's par for the course and true in every campaign i've ever covered, the press will talk about process particularly polls. mitt romney, conservatives are waiting for him to be big in events, big in message, big in personality. it seems like right now the campaign is waiting for him to do that in the debates. >> mark, you know why they focus on process, because there's not substance to -- you know, it's funny, in 1988 facing a more hostile press george h.w. bush never once whined about process. you know why? because james baker told the press what they were going to be following. and he told the candidate what he was going to be doing. and every week the candidate did it. the message was unbelievable. but
in the belief that growing our economy against with a strong, thriving middle class. read my plan. compare it to governor romney's and decide for yourself. thanks for listening. >> the president introduced the theme of economic patriotism into his stump speech at a campaign event in virginia today. >> during campaign season, you always hear a lot about patriotism. well, you know what? it's time for a new economic patriotism. an economic patriotism rooted in the belief that growing our economy begins with a strong and thriving middle class. >> this is a new line in the president's campaign speech. it's not simply a call for policies and programs to support the middle class. it's a contrast with his opponent. the contrast is on full display in another ad using mitt romney's own words. >> there are 47% of the people who will vote for the president no matter what, who are dependent upon government, who believe they are victims, who believes government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe they're entitled to health care, food, housing, you name it. they'll vote for the president n
how we're worried in that stagnant obama economy more people are becoming dependent on economy. >> what could be better for the emotional stability of a presidential candidate than your running mate calling you inarticulate? never mind. paul ryan is the one key numbers guy. so let's hear him explain the tax policy. >> the cut in tax rates is lower -- all american tax rates -- >> how much does it cost? >> it's revenue neutral. >> it's not revenue neutral unless you take away the deductions. the first half, lowering the tax rates. does that cost $5 trillion? >> no, no. look, i won't get into a baseline argument with you. >> you haven't given me the math. >> well, i don't have the time -- it would take me too long to go through all the math. >> all right. you know what, mitt? you better put paul ryan away somewhere. send him to a sports bar somewhere in ohio. at least he can have a few beers with voters. he's got that going for him. who knows, it might help make inroads with that 9% deficit romney is facing against the president in the latest ohio poll. then again, there may not b
of terrorism. while some romney advisers argue they should keep their focus on the economy, politico says plans are in the works for mitt romney to deliver a major foreign policy speech shortly after wednesday's debate. what do you think of that? you think he should do that? >> yes. i think, as i said, right after the killing, that wasn't the time to talk about this. >> right. >> now is the time, several weeks later, to talk about it. john heilemann, the lead in "the new york times," mistake in faith and security seen at libya mission before benghazi raid. response to the june bomb raised confidence in local guards. this benghazi story is an absolute mess. i think -- i've heard stuart stevens as saying let's focus on the economy. i think stuart stevens is exactly right. americans don't care as much in the polls about foreign policy. but several weeks later after this, i think it's very legitimate now that the press is going in and a couple of weeks have passed since the ambassador's death, now, yes. i mean, he's got a responsibility to talk about how badly the white house bungled this. >> i thi
in coordination with this, the question of is president obama handling the economy still not great but better. anything like that, helps the incumbent. remember, president obama's not going to be able to make the case that he fixed everything in four years. he's not trying to do that. what he has to say is i've made progress and can make more. in order to make that argument you have to be able to show people you've made progress or at least have people believe you've made progress, movement in the right direction numbers suggest that he's making that case. >> and we also have our new telemundo/nbc news poll breaking within this hour and that shows a 50-point lead among hispanic voters. 71/21 likely voters. that is a huge lead. the question is, of course, whether there is enthusiasm among hispanic voters and whether they're going to come out and vote. >> right. and even bigger gap than 69/31 what president obama beat john mccain among latinos in 2008. look, this is a problem in this election for republicans, andrea, but a bigger problem in 2016, 2020 and beyond. the hispanic community is obvio
to talk down the economy to score a few political points. it's a reminder that this country has come too far to turn back now. >> you heard the president. it's no day to talk down the economy to score political points. but shadowing the president in virginia, mitt romney waited nine minutes deep into his scintillating stump speech before even mentioning the big news of the day, delivering it like a speech at a funeral. >> there were fewer new jobs created this month than last month, and the unemployment rate, as you know, to this year has come down very, very slowly. of course, even those that have jobs are having tough times. >> okay. but give mr. romney credit because he actually admits the unemployment rate did come down. unlike prominent conservative jack welch who tweeted this morning, unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything. can't debate, so change numbers. okay. tuesday he was a ruthless race baiter. yesterday he was a feckless delivery boy. today he's don corleone, and there's more where that came from. congressman west, take it away. >> you are alleging sp
making $50,000. >> it's the right way to encourage economic growth. you grow an economy from the middle out, not from the top down. >> one thing he did not do in his first four years, just to raise taxes. >> it's time for a new economic patriotism. >> you were lucky enough to attend cran brook. >> you wear crummy shoes. people notice. >> we should measure compassion by how many people are able to get off welfare. i got everybody in my state insured. i don't think there's anything that shows more empathy and care. >> teach a man how to fish. >> my heart aches for the people i have seen. >> don't simply feed fish. >> every now and then i'm known to make a mistake. >> we throw our own penalty flag at mr. romney and mr. ryan. >> romney, ryan, romney, ryan. >> so that people don't get tired of her. >> when you go after my man -- >> stop it, this is hard. you want to try, it get in the ring. >> was i a little strong? >> never apologize for america. >> people will call my awful things every day. there are going to be bumps in the road. >> what's with the wily coyote nuclear bomb? >> 90 minute
. the debate is on domestic policy. 90 minutes is supposed to be devoted to the economy specifically with governing and health care. but we'll see if the general nature of those areas allows libya to come up, which we know the romney folks want to do. debates are as much about style as substance and this is a reality show where obama and romney will meet in the first time in nearly five years before their biggest audience of the campaign. the first 2008 presidential debate between the president and john mccain got seven times the audience of the highest rated 2012 republican primary debate. think about that. seven times. past debates show romney and obama have to worry about cut away shots that are less than flattering. in the past both candidates have come across as irritable, patronizing or disengaged. this was chris christie's advice to the candidates yesterday. >> what you do is go out and be yourself. and people either like it or don't. if they don't, they are going to vote for somebody else. not a tragedy. no one dies. >> finally speaking of debates, there was a barn burner las
on the economy, we'll get some meat on the bone here. but we forgot that this is politics. there are less than five weeks to go before the election, and there are certain things, mitt romney's tax plan, barack obama on social security, barack obama on simpson bowls and debt reduction, they don't want to put meat on the bone. people criticized the moderator. i'm not sure if the moderator pushed more for specifics if they decided i'm not going down this road, and they both clearly decided that on social security for obama, on tack plx plan for romney. i don't know how much cajoling will get them. barack obama being better today than he was last night, here's the problem. let's say there were 5,000 people at that rally. 50 plus million people we expect to have watched the debate last night. that's the issue. you need to be at your best when the audience is massive. you know, being good at a rally with your supporters is a lot easier than being good at a big, giant event where you're being directly confronted by the guy who wants your job. >> chris cillizza, ruth marcus and john harris, thank you
was a better steward of the economy than john mccain in troubled times. romney's got to make that case in 2012. >> little different when you're running against an incumbent. right? there's not a direct parallel there. >> look at the transcript. he was running against president bush. that these set of economic policies are wrong and i have a compelling vision. whether he can do that is another story. >> your colleague e.j. deion wrote journalists are in search of defining moments and game changers. by this standard, romney needs to game changer. obama can live quite happily without one. so do you think that mitt romney needs to have a big moment or if he is perceived to have won will at least give republicans some momentum. is that really the most reasonable thing to hope for? >> well, certainly it will. if the race were sort of fixed in time right now, everybody assumes that obama would win. in many ways that's happening because of early voting all right. so romney needs to change the trajectory in some way. now, that washington post is actually good news for romney in a sense he is winning th
in the same mhuge numbers as they were in 2008 which some polls suggest doesn't make any sense. the economy is on the verge of another recession according to a lot of nonpartisan think tanks. people are out of work and the unemployment rate is skyrocketing. the idea the democrats turn out with the same numbers and the same level of enthusiasm as they did in 2008 has raised, rightfully so, the number of democrats sampled in the polls. >> perry, what are hearing about the internal polls? >> the romney campaign keeps putting out memos say the race is closer than the polls show. if it showed they were winning by a lot, they would say that. the romney campaign privately does not they think the polls awrong. they say the poll show obama leading by more than think he is. it's not they're saying the polls are wrong. when every national poll -- i don't think we can say -- when fox news' poll shows obama ahead in a bunch of swing states recently, i don't think we can say the polls are wrong and biased because fox news conservative leading. they show what the polls are showing as well. the president h
's entrepreneurial economy. the president is bowing to the demands of big labor. >> of all things he's bringing up card check, this red meat for the organization. to your point they're no dummy, but these people don't have to read. we live in a different world than even four years ago, cable news is a strong presence, 24 hour cycle, twitter a stronger presence around. his game plan seems to be behind the curve of what is now modern politics, anne. >> it's funny, i'm old enough to remember a time when candidates went into different places and talk about different issues thinking people wouldn't hear them in different parts of the country. i think he's trying to -- when he's talking about card check, that is a dog whistle to certain members of the republican party. a lot of average voters don't know what that is. it's a union issue. for people who care about the unions and care about the public sector unions we've talked so much about, that's a message he's sending specifically to them. he's trying to walk and chew gum at the same time clearly. whether the people on the conservative end are mollifie
, delicate operation in libya, all kinds of unrest in europe around the economy. there's a lot of issues for the economy of the president to have on his mind. he can't just campaign and debate prep. he's the president of the united states. he has to weigh things on his mind. who knows what's on his mind at that particular point in time. i don't want to make excuses for him but to suggest he's lazy. president obama does more before 6:00 a.m. than john sununu will do in a month. he's the president of the united states and he has a lot of work to do -- >> professor, i think most people would agree that the president does more in his sleep than john sununu. karen finney, what was underneath this, referring to the president as lazy and a pizza boy? >> well, this is what we have seen time and again from the conservatives in terms of the lack of respect for this president. they have really demeaned the office of the presidency. you had a prominent conservative writer earlier this week essentially say the only reason, the only excuse possible as to why barack obama could be ahead in the polls is
post" and the kaiser family foundation shows that medicare trails only the economy as the top voting issue in the swing states of florida, ohio, and virginia. and among voters who say medicare is extremely important to their vote, obama swamps romney by, get this, 13 points. when voters in those states were asked a similar question, woman they trusted to deal with the medicare program, obama again trumps romney in all the polls. in ohio obama leads romney on medicare by 19. in florida, 15. in virginia, 13. other polls have shown president obama's advantage on medicare has grown significantly since ryan joined the ticket. so let's go back to this again, trying to figure this out. he bought into a guy who was known primarily for this voucher plan, getting rid of medicare as we know it. basically go to a doctor and the bills are paid by medicare. you can't beat a system like that, joy ann, i don't think on this planet earth and have something paid for when you go to do it. there's nothing like it. >> and -- >> why would anybody want to change it? nobody would want to change it. >> chris
think has the better skillset to move the economy forward? i think foreign policy matters. clearly look, an op-ed and then paul ryan saying what he said with laura engram is not by accident. it's purposeful. i think they wind up coming back to the economy. >> that is the subject of the debate unless they go off topic. chris cizilla, see you later. thank you so much. >>> and foreign policy is, of course, a crushing issue for all of those with soldiers deployed and their families at home and three more americans among the dead after a suicide bomber attacked a military patrol today in khost, afghanistan. the bomber struck a group of afghan police and u.s. troops as they walked through a market. the taliban claimed responsibility. nbc's lester holt is in kabul where he's been reporting for the past week and a half as part of a special nbc news series on region and conflict. lester, you have been on the ground, what is your take away on the green on blue attacks and this suicide attack which is different, at least the taliban taking responsibility? >> well, andrea, it's really in some ways
that brought the global economy to the brink of collapse, there have been few indictments and not a single criminal conviction of a top banking executive tied to the financial collapse. but the federal government has announced that it's now suing jpmorgan chase and its bear stearns unit for what they call a broad patent of midconduct during the housing boom. that's likely to further offend the managers who once supported the president but are now mortified because he's had the temerity to call them to account. thomas frank is a columnist with harper's magazine and the author of "pity the billionaire." great to have you. are these billionaires as pitiful as they appear. the president passed dodd frank, the stock market is more than doubled since 2008. and yet they hate him because why? >> that's a really good question, martin, but first we should take a step back and establish that they do hate him. not only are they pouring money into mitt romney's campaign, but there's a sort of literary genre out there of like what would you call it, public letters from billionaires denouncing obama. you
. and it's destabilizing. but let's get back to the economy, it was governor romney who talked about what he would do to create jobs. he's the one who put forward specifics about his plan. one thing that know one has talked about today is that his five-point plan includes increasing trade with central and south america. trade in our hemisphere, which is absolutely essential for us and easier and will build up central and south america so that it has more stable economies. >> one thing that came up last night was about mitt romney's plan to add 12 million jobs, but the economic forecast that's been projected by the cbo already says that 12 million jobs are going to be added over the next four years because of the current path we are on economically. so senators, i want to get you on the record about what came up about obama care last night and the arguments that were made back and forth on that front. who made the better argument about where we stand and what we need as a nation health care wise? >> we saw mr. romney as an etch-a-sketch. when he was running in the republican primary he mov
think we should build the economy from the middle class out like the president does or the top down like mitt romney does? >> credit ben labolt, thanks for joining us today. >> thanks. >> we say good morning to our tuesday political power panel. leah henderson, ted devine, senior strategist for al gore and john kerry. eugene robinson wrote in "the washington post" the challenges facing mitt romney in this debate, but going specifically saying romney's task is more difficult. for the umpteenth time he has to introduce himself to the american people and erase all the impressions of the mitt romney we met earlier and reveal a coherent person, one voters can imagine as a leader. is this debate more romney against himself? critics paint him displaying this flaccid leadership. >> he has to present himself as a president who would represent all americans. he said that several times. he's practicing that debate line. here again, even when he engages with that comment, it reminds people of that 47% remark. you see him over the last couple of days. i think it was today there is an interview in the
obama's stewardship of the economy, and very quickly it became about his own economic ideology and it became a choice between paul ryan and mitt romney and president obama and vice president biden's very different visions of our economic future. and so we're going to see that teased out again in the debate. i mean, those poll numbers are pretty locked in six weeks out. >> governor ed endell and alicia menendez, thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you. >> thanks, rev. >>> still ahead, eric cantor and the tea party were going to change washington. now they're hiding from their records. but we won't let them. that's next. [ male announcer ] how do you measure happiness? by the armful? by the barrelful? the carful? how about...by the bowlful? campbell's soups give you nutrition, energy, and can help you keep a healthy weight. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. >>> still ahead, eric cantor and the gang just love pushing that right wing agenda of theirs. but voters, yeah, let's just say they didn't find it as charming. now the gop's running from their record. vo: tough
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